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Aug 01 12:15:44 * Now talking on #gentoo
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Aug 01 12:16:36 <zukunf> does something like this exist? parallel execution of commands?
Aug 01 12:16:38 <iamben> i mean, the dep is definitely there, i think maybe the maintainer just doesn't care about this niche setup and hardcodes what's needed for "most people"
Aug 01 12:16:43 <zukunf> specifically 'emerge'
Aug 01 12:17:06 <zukunf> I need to run same 'emerge' on different roots
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Aug 01 12:21:05 <mechap> I am having a dependency conflict with zig, what do I do ? https://pastebin.com/LmD3Tqcn
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Aug 01 12:21:16 <parona_> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-evdev/-/commit/aac329fd2a93651e79c2618f45e85dfbd99cd025 iamben, yep, the libudev dependency is currently automagic so handling it in the ebuild properly wouldnt be clean
Aug 01 12:22:05 <parona_> mechap: so qtwebengine wants zlib with minizip and you currently dont have minizip enabled for zlib
Aug 01 12:22:43 <parona_> solution is to enable minizip for zlib
Aug 01 12:22:46 <iamben> parona_: but, it means it's pretty safe for him to p.p the dep
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Aug 01 12:22:54 <parona_> yes
Aug 01 12:23:05 <mechap> parona_: is it a useflag ?
Aug 01 12:23:14 <parona_> yes
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Aug 01 12:24:14 <mechap> perfect thanks!
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Aug 01 12:26:11 <adip> negril: it seems that unpacking tar with kernel kernel initrd and modules into filesystem with stage3 breaks the symlinks somehow. my tar has /boot with kernel and initrd and /lib/modules path with
Aug 01 12:26:46 <adip> extracting to tempdir and cp -r into filesystem seem to work
Aug 01 12:27:13 <iamben> adip: i wonder if the tarball has some "plain dirs" where the destination on your rootfs is symlinked dirs, and tar kills the links unless you --keep-directory-symlink
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Aug 01 12:27:33 <negril> wgetpaste -c "tar tvf <img>"
Aug 01 12:27:55 <negril> https://dpaste.com/FCRXK6CQZ is the script
Aug 01 12:27:56 <iamben> this was common when package would have /lib/libfoo.so but the destination rootfs had /lib -> lib64 symlink, it'd kill the link and make a new /lib with only a few files inside
Aug 01 12:30:10 <adip> tar xvf https://0x0.st/XOLB.txt
Aug 01 12:30:50 <adip> iamben: it's all plain directories. I've created it manually
Aug 01 12:32:16 <hoshino> can someone help me with my problem?
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Aug 01 12:43:01 <negril> hoshino: what more is there to tell you? can't run X application unless you use xwayland
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Aug 01 12:43:15 <negril> *X applications under wayland
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Aug 01 12:43:34 <zukunf> X applications work seamlessly
Aug 01 12:43:48 <zukunf> at least here
Aug 01 12:43:57 <negril> zukunf: thanks for the input
Aug 01 12:44:38 <zukunf> your welcome! I felt I needed to chime in and share this.
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Aug 01 12:45:51 <negril> Now you have to explain to hoshino how you did that
Aug 01 12:46:27 <hoshino> I just joined back
Aug 01 12:46:28 <ditto_> how about rtfm instead
Aug 01 12:46:33 <hoshino> i have
Aug 01 12:46:38 <hoshino> and I have looked at numerous websites
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Aug 01 12:47:04 <ditto_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Running_GUI_applications_as_root#Wayland
Aug 01 12:47:11 <ditto_> also check this
Aug 01 12:47:51 <zukunf> dhcpcd-ui?? I am out
Aug 01 12:48:02 <ditto_> :D
Aug 01 12:48:37 <hoshino> the Xwayland server is running, yet the application has the same error, nor do I have the xhost command available to me
Aug 01 12:48:43 <hoshino> do I need to install the X server?
Aug 01 12:48:55 <zukunf> hoshino: qt uses native wayland
Aug 01 12:49:03 <Kelsar> xwayland is a xserver
Aug 01 12:49:15 <hoshino> and qt doesnt work for me
Aug 01 12:49:23 <hoshino> gtk and qt have the same common issue
Aug 01 12:49:26 <Kelsar> hoshino: system completly updated?
Aug 01 12:49:26 <hoshino> and i think its about X
Aug 01 12:49:29 <zukunf> hoshino: are you using gentoo at all?
Aug 01 12:49:33 <hoshino> yes..?
Aug 01 12:49:44 <Kelsar> ..?
Aug 01 12:49:46 <hoshino> why would I be on a  gentoo support channel if I wasnt running gentoo
Aug 01 12:49:54 <hoshino> pardon my rudeness, sorry
Aug 01 12:50:04 <zukunf> oh alright, because there are explicit USE flag to use this or that way
Aug 01 12:50:49 <Kelsar> hoshino: wgetpaste -ic 'emerge -pvuDN world
Aug 01 12:50:52 <Kelsar> hoshino: wgetpaste -ic 'emerge -pvuDN world'
Aug 01 12:51:31 <zukunf> hoshino: perhaps this helps, QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland
Aug 01 12:51:36 <hoshino> https://bpa.st/GTFQ
Aug 01 12:51:55 <zukunf> QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland dhcpcd-ui
Aug 01 12:52:05 <zukunf> hoshino: which QT version uses?
Aug 01 12:52:26 <hoshino> i believe 5
Aug 01 12:53:06 <hoshino> https://bpa.st/KMCA
Aug 01 12:53:14 <hoshino> for the record, the xdg_runtime_dir is set
Aug 01 12:53:23 <Kelsar> that looks like a mess of a system
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Aug 01 12:53:57 <hoshino> i am a gentoo noob that somehow got a wm installed :)
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Aug 01 12:54:33 <Kelsar> hoshino: did you play around with ABI_X86?
Aug 01 12:54:33 <ditto_> and as any unoob you got the cringest one
Aug 01 12:55:10 <hoshino> Kelsar no, only on specific packages
Aug 01 12:55:26 <zukunf> hozgento: ooh, you need some other env for root
Aug 01 12:56:39 <Kelsar> hoshino: yeah, seems like you set the deps of wine and other stuff with a version lock to 32bit
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Aug 01 12:57:04 <Kelsar> or removed it from some packages after installing them with it
Aug 01 12:57:12 <zukunf> hoshino: oh nevermind the disable thingy is for qtengine
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Aug 01 12:57:40 <hoshino> what do you mean by that?
Aug 01 12:58:34 <Kelsar> hoshino: it seems you installed a lot of packages with 32 bit support and then removed that flag from your config for those packages
Aug 01 12:58:58 <Kelsar> smells a bit like doing ABI_X86=32 emerge something
Aug 01 12:58:59 <zukunf> hoshino: where's you XDG_RUNTIME_DIR?
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Aug 01 12:59:21 <hoshino>  /tmp/hypr
Aug 01 12:59:36 <zukunf> hoshino: so put it manually in the command : XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/path/to/dir QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland dhcpcd-ui
Aug 01 12:59:40 <zukunf> and see what happens
Aug 01 12:59:51 <Kelsar> zukunf: your stuff will not work
Aug 01 12:59:56 <ditto_> https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/5658 potentially related, last comment
Aug 01 13:00:28 <Kelsar> ditto_: who would flatpak be related here?
Aug 01 13:00:54 <hoshino> same errors
Aug 01 13:01:05 <hoshino> but with "Failed to create wl_display (No such file or directory)" replacing the xdg runtime dir
Aug 01 13:01:48 <Kelsar> hoshino: wgetpaste -c 'grep -r 32 /etc/portage/package.use'
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Aug 01 13:02:27 <hoshino> https://bpa.st/DY6A
Aug 01 13:02:38 <Kelsar> oh dear
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Aug 01 13:04:29 <Kelsar> hoshino: yeah, the packages in the emerge output are missing. you either removed them or did only set it once on the emerge command invocation
Aug 01 13:05:03 <hoshino> should I put this in my make.conf? "ABI_X86=32"
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Aug 01 13:06:10 <Kelsar> then everything would be built with 32 bit support, while that would solve it, it may not be what you want. you can basically take all the packages it complains about in the emerge output and add it to a file beneath package.use with abi_x86_32 behind it
Aug 01 13:06:10 <ditto_> ugh
Aug 01 13:06:40 <Kelsar> best without version
Aug 01 13:07:08 <ditto_> Kelsar: because it isn't all that much about flatpak specific
Aug 01 13:07:35 <hoshino> why not just compile with 32 bit support? that sounds like it would save me a headache or two for future applications?
Aug 01 13:07:36 <Kelsar> ditto_: and it is not related, following a red hering
Aug 01 13:07:43 <hoshino> is it purely because it takes more storage?
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Aug 01 13:07:56 <Kelsar> hoshino: well, that is on you. i do that indeed, because i am lazy
Aug 01 13:08:01 <Kelsar> more storage, more compile time
Aug 01 13:08:10 <Kelsar> well double compile time
Aug 01 13:09:22 <ditto_> hoshino: wgetpaste -c "ldd /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so"
Aug 01 13:09:28 <negril> lddtree
Aug 01 13:09:29 <negril> not ldd
Aug 01 13:09:38 <hoshino> the second option sounds like too much so ill just go with the first i think
Aug 01 13:10:00 <hoshino> https://bpa.st/6ZGQ
Aug 01 13:11:28 <ditto_> export QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins
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Aug 01 13:12:32 <ditto_> hoshino: or QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins dhcpcd-qt
Aug 01 13:13:14 <hoshino> exact same error
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Aug 01 13:14:20 <hoshino> I have a feeling the Xwayland server cant connect to my display
Aug 01 13:14:34 <zukunf> hoshino: did you read this part of the message? "Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."
Aug 01 13:14:35 <Kelsar> wayland does not use the display metapher
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Aug 01 13:14:52 <Kelsar> hoshino: fix the emerge, make the update and if it still not works, come back
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Aug 01 13:15:23 <hoshino> to be clear, should I put "ABI_X86=32" into my make.conf?
Aug 01 13:15:34 <Kelsar> yes, that is one way to solve that
Aug 01 13:16:04 <hoshino> i am updating my system with that
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Aug 01 13:55:40 <drew> should optional dependencies go in the world file? Is there a better way to install something as an (optional) dependency of another package?
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Aug 01 13:57:19 <Alfr> drew, what do think of, when you say "better"?
Aug 01 13:57:25 <monkfish> only if not otherwise subject to a USE flag.
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Aug 01 13:58:08 <drew> Alfr: I am trying to avoid a future where I uninstall something and still have optional dependencies installed for it and can't remember why I installed them
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Aug 01 13:58:18 <monkfish> ok. then no. don't do that.
Aug 01 13:58:31 <marduk> put them in a set
Aug 01 13:58:33 <Alfr> drew, if you want to, you could define sets for those ...
Aug 01 13:58:41 <drew> I've never heard of that
Aug 01 13:59:05 <monkfish> is it really necessary?
Aug 01 14:00:06 <Alfr> drew, /etc/portage/sets/fizz-buzz; one atom per line. Then emerge @fizz-buzz; if you want to get rid of it, emerge -W @fizz-buzz followed by a depclean.
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Aug 01 14:01:06 <drew> I mean I am manually installing stuff like chromaprint and some py libs for a program and if I later uninstall it they will stay. I figure one of the points of tracking dependencies is to not do that
Aug 01 14:01:30 <monkfish> why, though? is the program outside the purview of portage?
Aug 01 14:01:53 <drew> no, these are just optional dependencies. It's media-sounds/beets fwiw
Aug 01 14:02:21 <monkfish> I see.
Aug 01 14:02:26 <drew> it has 12 optional dependencies and I would like to install some, but if I uninstall beets later, I will still have stuff like chromaprint installed, for example
Aug 01 14:02:53 <monkfish> a named set does have the benefit of being able to be named in accordance with its purpose and to contain comments.
Aug 01 14:03:01 <monkfish> actually, not sure about comments.
Aug 01 14:03:48 <monkfish> but just being able to name it, say, beets-optdeps is a potential win from a maintenance perspective.
Aug 01 14:04:02 <drew> right, I think that is the best option so far
Aug 01 14:04:24 <Alfr> drew, monkfish may want to name the set beets and thrown in beets itself too.
Aug 01 14:05:05 <drew> do I have to add the set to world? or are all sets considered roots of a dep tree?
Aug 01 14:05:52 <Alfr> drew, if you emerge the set, it'll be recorded in /var/lib/portage/world_sets.
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Aug 01 14:25:40 <hoshino> dhcpcd-ui still doesnt work
Aug 01 14:25:44 <hoshino> and the same issue remains
Aug 01 14:26:33 <hoshino> https://bpa.st/KLSQ
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Aug 01 14:27:24 <wkrs> iamben: https://bpa.st/WMYA
Aug 01 14:27:39 <wkrs> My broken kernel dmesg
Aug 01 14:27:57 <tdr> hoshino, are you running that on wayland or X?
Aug 01 14:28:04 <hoshino> Hyprland runs on wayland
Aug 01 14:28:40 <tdr> ok its looking for display:0 which is an X thing, you'd need to have that set, probably through an xdg thing
Aug 01 14:29:14 <hoshino> one of the xdg helpers I have is xdg-portal-hyprland
Aug 01 14:29:40 <tdr> i dont think thats the typical one used to set/mimic an x display by other wayland users
Aug 01 14:30:49 <hoshino> its the one I have set up which makes my applications urn
Aug 01 14:30:50 <hoshino> *run
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Aug 01 14:36:20 <hoshino> oh
Aug 01 14:36:22 <hoshino> from what I see,
Aug 01 14:36:36 <hoshino> it seems that the application wont run because the application is being run as root
Aug 01 14:38:57 <tdr> that could also why it cant conenct to display:0 if your user "owns" display:0
Aug 01 14:39:15 <hoshino> id probably need a root session with hyprland to access that application then
Aug 01 14:39:34 <tdr> if you su to root first, so "su" so you dont lose your own env, then launch it, does it work?
Aug 01 14:40:24 <hoshino> QStandardPaths: runtime directory '/tmp/hypr' is not owned by UID 0, but a directory permissions 0700 owned by UID 1000 GID 1000
Aug 01 14:40:24 <tdr> su (use that) vs su - is what I meant, that should carry your xauth forward
Aug 01 14:40:25 <hoshino> thought so
Aug 01 14:40:37 <hoshino> uid 0 is root
Aug 01 14:40:42 <hoshino> however
Aug 01 14:40:44 <hoshino> I just noticed
Aug 01 14:40:50 <hoshino> wpa_gui also manages my networks
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Aug 01 14:40:58 <hoshino> I am running wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd
Aug 01 14:41:04 <hoshino> ?
Aug 01 14:41:11 <hoshino> where am I getting my network from..?
Aug 01 14:41:21 <tdr> it can be done multiple ways
Aug 01 14:41:33 <tdr> your wpa coul dbe calling dhcpd as a process
Aug 01 14:41:36 <hoshino> I also have networkmanager, but it is disabled
Aug 01 14:41:40 <hoshino> ah
Aug 01 14:41:41 <hoshino> true
Aug 01 14:41:43 <tdr> or your dhcpcd could be starting wpa
Aug 01 14:41:49 <tdr> (as a process)
Aug 01 14:41:57 <tdr> which service do you have enabled?
Aug 01 14:42:01 <hoshino> dhcpcd
Aug 01 14:43:15 <tdr> so what are you needing to do (other than the obvious "open a gui tool") ?
Aug 01 14:43:26 <hoshino> change my network to a different one
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Aug 01 14:44:48 <BtbN> that seems a bit out of scope of plain dhcpcd
Aug 01 14:45:06 <BtbN> it is a bit of a small NM, but not really on-par at all
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Aug 01 14:47:52 <hoshino> wpa_gui doesnt work again :(
Aug 01 14:48:09 <hoshino> i dont know which environment variable I set, but since i refreshed this web page, I cant scroll back up in chat
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Aug 01 14:48:28 <tdr> hoshino, did you run it as your user or as root?
Aug 01 14:48:42 <hoshino> root
Aug 01 14:48:47 <hoshino> since user cant access wpa_supplicant
Aug 01 14:48:57 <tdr> so you ran su first then ran the command?
Aug 01 14:49:20 <hoshino> ohh
Aug 01 14:49:23 <hoshino> i run su by itself
Aug 01 14:49:29 <hoshino> and not with sudo in front of it
Aug 01 14:49:35 <tdr> thats what i meant to do
Aug 01 14:49:47 <tdr> su first, then execute it, sudo is yet another layer i didnt want to debug
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Aug 01 14:49:58 <tdr> just "su" not "su -"
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Aug 01 14:50:06 <hoshino50> yea
Aug 01 14:50:07 <hoshino50> it worked
Aug 01 14:50:15 <hoshino50> thanks
Aug 01 14:50:17 <tdr> np
Aug 01 14:50:49 <hoshino50> all this just because my network has a stupid firewall preset by the manufacturer to block "suspicious networks"
Aug 01 14:51:26 <hoshino50> I have a spare pc, and im tempted to buy an inexpensive switch and ap and use the pc as a network
Aug 01 14:52:35 <tdr> you could maybe turn your "router" into AP mode too, some let you do that
Aug 01 14:53:00 <hoshino50> mine has pretty locked down firmware, and im unsure how I could flash it with some software
Aug 01 14:53:22 <tdr> hoshino50, what is it
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Aug 01 14:55:27 <hoshino50> it is a fios g1100
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Aug 01 15:03:22 <kurly> whatever problem you think your fios box is causing, it's probably not
Aug 01 15:05:16 <zen_desu> idk some CPE comes straight out of hell
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Aug 01 15:07:28 <kurly> wat
Aug 01 15:08:53 <zen_desu> i've had ISP provided boxes that do things you'd never want a network device doing
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Aug 01 15:09:13 <zen_desu> some even with miswired ethernet ports
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Aug 01 15:10:33 <kurly> i have fios myself and use a g3100, i reiterate what i said
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Aug 01 15:14:18 <zen_desu> probably would have been good to lead with that info lol, but i would not be totally surprised if there was some compatibility issues with that device and whatever NIC they are using, or bad firmware. you kinda never know with CPE stuff, you really need some sane AP to test with in cases like this
Aug 01 15:15:07 <zen_desu> lots of cards will run an AP just fine so it's not too hard to test with hostapd on some other device
Aug 01 15:16:21 <zen_desu> it's also hepful when the other ends says auth or association failure, etc
Aug 01 15:18:07 <kurly> zen_desu: you've been here long enough to know that *usually* when i say things, it's because i have good reason ;)
Aug 01 15:19:59 <zen_desu> sure, but i think for the sake of learning it is helpful to substantiate things, rather than just say "it's probably not that". i also think if they are concerned about locked down firmware and being able to debug their network, it makes sense to try to use something other than CPE, so there's no reason to shut down that approach, even if it's true that this isn't some firewalling on their CPE
Aug 01 15:20:27 <zen_desu> in general i think most people benefit by replacing their CPE if they can afford to or have the time to do a bit of extra managemetn
Aug 01 15:20:54 <zen_desu> in some cases it even saves money, as some ISPS bill you monthly to use their hardware
Aug 01 15:22:00 <tdr> zen_desu, they boutht the router outright and only use the ONT (which you can't escape and dont get billed for)
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Aug 01 15:23:02 <zen_desu> they said the network has some manufacturer firewall preset? that suggests they are using some router they can't fully control?
Aug 01 15:23:30 <zen_desu> I mean I have an ATT ONT i can't avoid using but it has my own router on "passthrough" or whatever so that is what does all the firewalling, and it gets a public ip
Aug 01 15:24:08 <zen_desu> if your ONT forces itself as your gateway router, that really limits how you can use your own network
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Aug 01 15:24:51 <tdr> verizon ont's dont force anything
Aug 01 15:25:19 <zen_desu> yeah if they have their own router under it, and it's acting as a bridge, then there should be no firewall concerns with it
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Aug 01 15:25:44 <zen_desu> but if it's still acting as a router, you kinda never know what it's actually doing in terms of firewalling/routing/etc
Aug 01 15:25:59 <tdr> its not really a router with any firewalling at all
Aug 01 15:26:19 <zen_desu> i think a lot of them also haev afancy sfp module that needs to use the device mac as an encryption key or something
Aug 01 15:26:59 <zen_desu> yeah but the CPE device sometims has all of it integrated and will do firewalling stuff itself, or have weird access policies if set to some kinda security mode
Aug 01 15:27:36 <zen_desu> idk about that one in particular, but again, just saying i would not be surprised if there was some weird firewalling issue coming as a result of using CPE as a router/fw in any capacity
Aug 01 15:28:24 <tdr> verizon isnt doing anything to it, the router is not company provided
Aug 01 15:29:28 <zen_desu> "mine has pretty locked down firmware, and im unsure how I could flash it with some software ... it is a fios g1100" did i miss any messages? they seem to say whatever is acting as a firewall on their network is that CPE
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Aug 01 17:19:39 <sokan> https://paste.gentoo.zip/IvPcv99M <-- to solve this I need to emerge lbv4l and --depclean v4l-utils?
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Aug 01 17:25:09 <kurly> sokan: emerge -W v4l-utils (-W/--deselect)
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Aug 01 17:27:16 <sokan> kurly: and then update @world?
Aug 01 17:29:57 <kurly> yes
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Aug 01 18:33:17 <Cheyenne> distcc question -- is there a way to use the remote builder first (when it's available)?
Aug 01 18:38:12 <Skunky> set local jobs to 0? (just a guess, i've never managed to make distcc work quite right)
Aug 01 18:38:36 <Cheyenne> Well.. it needs to still be able to process locally if the remote system isn't available
Aug 01 18:38:48 <Cheyenne> would just like it to prefer the remote system
Aug 01 18:39:19 <salahx> IT perfers servers in the order they are specified
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Aug 01 18:39:34 <salahx> "localhost" is special and refers to the local machine
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Aug 01 18:40:43 <Cheyenne> distcc's hosts ==> gentoo-builder/16 \n localhost/8
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Aug 01 18:43:02 <Cheyenne> the gentoo-builder is a virtual machine on a very beefy system
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Aug 01 19:42:51 <josef__k> I've got a problem rebuilding sci-libs/gsl that I can't find an answer for on the web: https://pastebin.com/Fd1WnevT
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Aug 01 19:43:17 <josef__k> The error line is "checking for cblas_sgemm in -lcblas... configure: error"
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Aug 01 19:44:44 <mingdao> josef__k: Did you check bugs.gentoo.org?
Aug 01 19:45:06 <josef__k> Yeah, although my search foo is not awesome these days, I'll keep searching.
Aug 01 19:46:48 <josef__k> I don't see anything for >=gsl-2.0 and cblas in there.
Aug 01 19:48:12 <tdr> josef__k, both 2.7.1-r2 and gsl-2.7.1-r3 (both from gentoo not the repo you're using) build for me
Aug 01 19:48:28 <tdr> oh i misread
Aug 01 19:48:33 <josef__k> Yeah, I don't think it's a problem with gsl, it's a problem with my setup.
Aug 01 19:48:56 <tdr> thought yours said the science repo
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Aug 01 19:50:29 <josef__k> I use eselect-ldso and openblas, and have USE=external-cblas on gsl.
Aug 01 19:50:57 <tdr> i just built it with and without external-blas
Aug 01 19:51:00 <josef__k> I just upgraded to profile 23.0, so _everything_ has been rebuilt recently and this problem was happening before that.
Aug 01 19:51:34 <josef__k> So I feel like there is some leftover cruft somewhere that is wrong that needs to be deleted or something.
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Aug 01 19:55:56 <josef__k> I've also got this long list of preserved libs that don't get resolved when I run emerge @preserved-libs: https://pastebin.com/tPWmpeZk
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Aug 01 20:01:25 <tdr> josef__k, if you emerge -1 inkscape does the libpoppler one go away?
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Aug 01 20:04:42 <igor42> Why does portage not use tqdm or another progress bar for emerge runs? Or is there an option to use one?
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Aug 01 20:10:10 <kurly> igor42: because it's not possible to determine how long any given package will take
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Aug 01 20:17:54 <igor42> kurly: I meant a progress bar of n/N packages done. Equivalent to what it shows now when running concurrent emerges. I just prefer a tqdm-like progressbar over a message saying x jobs complete.
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Aug 01 20:23:04 <ezzieyguywuf> `pactl info` hangs for a few seconds then times out - how can I troubleshoot what's going on?
Aug 01 20:23:53 <ezzieyguywuf> I don't seem to have gentoo-pipewire-launcher installed either
Aug 01 20:26:41 <igor42> ezzieyguywuf: do you have pipewire installed?
Aug 01 20:26:58 <igor42> I believe pactl is provided by pulseaudio, not pipewore
Aug 01 20:27:39 <ezzieyguywuf> igor42: I do but it's not up-to-date
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Aug 01 20:29:28 <ezzieyguywuf> k, so ps-cli seems to confirm that pipewire is doing _something_
Aug 01 20:29:40 <ezzieyguywuf> I guess just the pulseaudio thingy isn't pulseuaudioing
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Aug 01 21:31:30 <kernaltrap> having issues building dev-util/rizin: http://0x0.st/XOOl.txt
Aug 01 21:31:54 <kernaltrap> i could maybe uninstall it but i'd rather fix it, no idea what to look for as it just fails to compile a file without really any message
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Aug 01 21:32:57 <kernaltrap> whoops i forgot to ansifilter the log
Aug 01 21:33:43 <kurly> bug 928301
Aug 01 21:33:45 <willikins> kurly: https://bugs.gentoo.org/928301 "dev-util/rizin-0.7.1 - c_cpp_parser.c:(.text+<snip>): undefined reference to ts_parser_new"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; CONF; toralf:ajak
Aug 01 21:34:44 <kernaltrap> oh i didnt even notice the linker errors earlier
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Aug 01 21:42:17 <kernaltrap> hm well i could build the latest upstream manually just fine, is this a gcc bug or something?
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Aug 01 21:45:36 <kurly> not sure how that conclusion was arrived at
Aug 01 21:45:55 <kernaltrap> well
Aug 01 21:46:07 <kernaltrap> i dont think when i invoke meson myself it uses gcc
Aug 01 21:48:16 <kurly> it just built fine here, so time for a new theory ;)
Aug 01 21:48:28 <kernaltrap> yeah very strange
Aug 01 21:48:38 <kernaltrap> why would it build manually but not via emerge...
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Aug 01 21:56:51 <ztrawhcse> when you invoke meson yourself, it may see `cc` instead of `gcc`
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Aug 01 21:58:49 <ztrawhcse> kernaltrap: basically it appears to be saying that the system tree-sitter isn't functionally providing the APIs it expects to get
Aug 01 21:59:24 <ztrawhcse> kernaltrap: and portage is passing the meson option -Duse_sys_tree_sitter=enabled
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Aug 01 22:04:38 <kernaltrap> ztrawhcse: ah alright, thanks eli. yeah passing that did result in the same compiler errors
Aug 01 22:04:44 <parona_> if tree-sitter-c is installed it uses it and fails. otherwise it uses its tree-sitter-c subproject statically and succeeds
Aug 01 22:04:58 <kernaltrap> yeah tree-sitter-c is installed for me
Aug 01 22:05:39 <kernaltrap> this seems to be the fault of neovim, at least for me, as its the only package pulling in tree-sitter-c
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Aug 01 22:08:33 <parona_> tbh the issue is either rizins build system or tree-sitter-c's pkgconf file not including instruction to link against tree-sitter proper
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Aug 01 22:10:10 <Corbit> Why does x11-misc/slop fails, by updating my system? Build log: https://bpa.st/SPQA
Aug 01 22:10:45 <Corbit> Compiler issue?
Aug 01 22:10:55 <parona_> icu
Aug 01 22:11:22 <parona_> icu bumped its c++ standard meaning all its revdeps need to update themselves as well
Aug 01 22:11:45 <parona_> bug 933863 looks like its reported
Aug 01 22:11:47 <willikins> parona_: https://bugs.gentoo.org/933863 "x11-misc/slop-7.6-r1 - [icu-75.1] /.../stringpiece.h: error: enable_if_t in namespace std does not name a template type"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; IN_P; toralf:nrk
Aug 01 22:12:30 <Corbit> Ah. Thanks parona_. Does it make sense to exclude this package to keep my update going?
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Aug 01 22:13:06 <parona_> you could do that and lets preserve-rebuild keep the old icu libs. or you could downgrade icu and mask the new one
Aug 01 22:13:54 <parona_> kernaltrap: looks like pkgconf it is. adding -ltree-sitter to it made it happy
Aug 01 22:14:06 <parona_> https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter-c/blob/master/bindings/c/tree-sitter-c.pc.in#L10
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Aug 01 22:18:49 <Corbit> parona_ Ok, so I put "=dev-libs/icu-74.1" to package.mask. Does preserve-rebuild keeps toe old icu by itself?
Aug 01 22:19:21 <parona_> wrong way around. anything above version 75 has the breaking change
Aug 01 22:19:29 <parona_> so >=dev-libs/icu-75
Aug 01 22:19:39 <parona_> and yes
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Aug 01 22:23:09 <Corbit> Ah. Now it works. Thanks parona_ :)
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