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T 1722536144 22*	Topic for 22#gentoo set by 26iamben!~iamben@gentoo/developer/bkohler (24Mon Jul 29 05:17:46 2024)
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T 1722536196 18<zukunf18>	does something like this exist? parallel execution of commands?
T 1722536198 18<iamben18>	i mean, the dep is definitely there, i think maybe the maintainer just doesn't care about this niche setup and hardcodes what's needed for "most people"
T 1722536203 18<zukunf18>	specifically 'emerge'
T 1722536226 18<zukunf18>	I need to run same 'emerge' on different roots
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T 1722536465 18<mechap18>	I am having a dependency conflict with zig, what do I do ? https://pastebin.com/LmD3Tqcn
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T 1722536476 18<parona_18>	https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-evdev/-/commit/aac329fd2a93651e79c2618f45e85dfbd99cd025 iamben, yep, the libudev dependency is currently automagic so handling it in the ebuild properly wouldnt be clean
T 1722536525 18<parona_18>	mechap: so qtwebengine wants zlib with minizip and you currently dont have minizip enabled for zlib
T 1722536563 18<parona_18>	solution is to enable minizip for zlib
T 1722536566 18<iamben18>	parona_: but, it means it's pretty safe for him to p.p the dep
T 1722536574 18<parona_18>	yes
T 1722536585 18<mechap18>	parona_: is it a useflag ?
T 1722536594 18<parona_18>	yes
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T 1722536654 18<mechap18>	perfect thanks!
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T 1722536771 18<adip18>	negril: it seems that unpacking tar with kernel kernel initrd and modules into filesystem with stage3 breaks the symlinks somehow. my tar has /boot with kernel and initrd and /lib/modules path with
T 1722536806 18<adip18>	extracting to tempdir and cp -r into filesystem seem to work
T 1722536833 18<iamben18>	adip: i wonder if the tarball has some "plain dirs" where the destination on your rootfs is symlinked dirs, and tar kills the links unless you --keep-directory-symlink
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T 1722536853 18<negril18>	wgetpaste -c "tar tvf <img>"
T 1722536875 18<negril18>	https://dpaste.com/FCRXK6CQZ is the script
T 1722536876 18<iamben18>	this was common when package would have /lib/libfoo.so but the destination rootfs had /lib -> lib64 symlink, it'd kill the link and make a new /lib with only a few files inside
T 1722537010 18<adip18>	tar xvf https://0x0.st/XOLB.txt
T 1722537050 18<adip18>	iamben: it's all plain directories. I've created it manually
T 1722537136 18<hoshino18>	can someone help me with my problem?
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T 1722537781 18<negril18>	hoshino: what more is there to tell you? can't run X application unless you use xwayland
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T 1722537795 18<negril18>	*X applications under wayland
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T 1722537814 18<zukunf18>	X applications work seamlessly
T 1722537828 18<zukunf18>	at least here
T 1722537837 18<negril18>	zukunf: thanks for the input
T 1722537878 18<zukunf18>	your welcome! I felt I needed to chime in and share this.
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T 1722537951 18<negril18>	Now you have to explain to hoshino how you did that
T 1722537987 18<hoshino18>	I just joined back
T 1722537988 18<ditto_18>	how about rtfm instead
T 1722537993 18<hoshino18>	i have
T 1722537998 18<hoshino18>	and I have looked at numerous websites
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T 1722538024 18<ditto_18>	https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Running_GUI_applications_as_root#Wayland
T 1722538031 18<ditto_18>	also check this
T 1722538071 18<zukunf18>	dhcpcd-ui?? I am out
T 1722538082 18<ditto_18>	:D
T 1722538117 18<hoshino18>	the Xwayland server is running, yet the application has the same error, nor do I have the xhost command available to me
T 1722538123 18<hoshino18>	do I need to install the X server?
T 1722538135 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: qt uses native wayland
T 1722538143 18<Kelsar18>	xwayland is a xserver
T 1722538155 18<hoshino18>	and qt doesnt work for me
T 1722538163 18<hoshino18>	gtk and qt have the same common issue
T 1722538166 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: system completly updated?
T 1722538166 18<hoshino18>	and i think its about X
T 1722538169 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: are you using gentoo at all?
T 1722538173 18<hoshino18>	yes..?
T 1722538184 18<Kelsar18>	..?
T 1722538186 18<hoshino18>	why would I be on a  gentoo support channel if I wasnt running gentoo
T 1722538194 18<hoshino18>	pardon my rudeness, sorry
T 1722538204 18<zukunf18>	oh alright, because there are explicit USE flag to use this or that way
T 1722538249 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: wgetpaste -ic 'emerge -pvuDN world
T 1722538252 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: wgetpaste -ic 'emerge -pvuDN world'
T 1722538291 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: perhaps this helps, QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland
T 1722538296 18<hoshino18>	https://bpa.st/GTFQ
T 1722538315 18<zukunf18>	QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland dhcpcd-ui
T 1722538325 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: which QT version uses?
T 1722538346 18<hoshino18>	i believe 5
T 1722538386 18<hoshino18>	https://bpa.st/KMCA
T 1722538394 18<hoshino18>	for the record, the xdg_runtime_dir is set
T 1722538403 18<Kelsar18>	that looks like a mess of a system
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T 1722538437 18<hoshino18>	i am a gentoo noob that somehow got a wm installed :)
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T 1722538473 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: did you play around with ABI_X86?
T 1722538473 18<ditto_18>	and as any unoob you got the cringest one
T 1722538510 18<hoshino18>	Kelsar no, only on specific packages
T 1722538526 18<zukunf18>	hozgento: ooh, you need some other env for root
T 1722538599 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: yeah, seems like you set the deps of wine and other stuff with a version lock to 32bit
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T 1722538624 18<Kelsar18>	or removed it from some packages after installing them with it
T 1722538632 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: oh nevermind the disable thingy is for qtengine
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T 1722538660 18<hoshino18>	what do you mean by that?
T 1722538714 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: it seems you installed a lot of packages with 32 bit support and then removed that flag from your config for those packages
T 1722538738 18<Kelsar18>	smells a bit like doing ABI_X86=32 emerge something
T 1722538739 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: where's you XDG_RUNTIME_DIR?
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T 1722538761 18<hoshino18>	 /tmp/hypr
T 1722538776 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: so put it manually in the command : XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/path/to/dir QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland dhcpcd-ui
T 1722538780 18<zukunf18>	and see what happens
T 1722538791 18<Kelsar18>	zukunf: your stuff will not work
T 1722538796 18<ditto_18>	https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/5658 potentially related, last comment
T 1722538828 18<Kelsar18>	ditto_: who would flatpak be related here?
T 1722538854 18<hoshino18>	same errors
T 1722538865 18<hoshino18>	but with "Failed to create wl_display (No such file or directory)" replacing the xdg runtime dir
T 1722538908 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: wgetpaste -c 'grep -r 32 /etc/portage/package.use'
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T 1722538947 18<hoshino18>	https://bpa.st/DY6A
T 1722538958 18<Kelsar18>	oh dear
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T 1722539069 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: yeah, the packages in the emerge output are missing. you either removed them or did only set it once on the emerge command invocation
T 1722539103 18<hoshino18>	should I put this in my make.conf? "ABI_X86=32"
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T 1722539170 18<Kelsar18>	then everything would be built with 32 bit support, while that would solve it, it may not be what you want. you can basically take all the packages it complains about in the emerge output and add it to a file beneath package.use with abi_x86_32 behind it
T 1722539170 18<ditto_18>	ugh
T 1722539200 18<Kelsar18>	best without  version
T 1722539228 18<ditto_18>	Kelsar: because it isn't all that much about flatpak specific
T 1722539255 18<hoshino18>	why not just compile with 32 bit support? that sounds like it would save me a headache or two for future applications?
T 1722539256 18<Kelsar18>	ditto_: and it is not related, following a red hering
T 1722539263 18<hoshino18>	is it purely because it takes more storage?
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T 1722539276 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: well, that is on you. i do that indeed, because i am lazy
T 1722539281 18<Kelsar18>	more storage, more compile time
T 1722539290 18<Kelsar18>	well double compile time
T 1722539362 18<ditto_18>	hoshino: wgetpaste -c "ldd /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so"
T 1722539368 18<negril18>	lddtree
T 1722539369 18<negril18>	not ldd
T 1722539378 18<hoshino18>	the second option sounds like too much so ill just go with the first i think
T 1722539400 18<hoshino18>	https://bpa.st/6ZGQ
T 1722539488 18<ditto_18>	export QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins
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T 1722539552 18<ditto_18>	hoshino:  or QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins dhcpcd-qt
T 1722539594 18<hoshino18>	exact same error
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T 1722539660 18<hoshino18>	I have a feeling the Xwayland server cant connect to my display
T 1722539674 18<zukunf18>	hoshino: did you read this part of the message? "Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."
T 1722539675 18<Kelsar18>	wayland does not use the display metapher
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T 1722539692 18<Kelsar18>	hoshino: fix the emerge, make the update and if it still not works, come back
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T 1722539723 18<hoshino18>	to be clear, should I put "ABI_X86=32" into my make.conf?
T 1722539734 18<Kelsar18>	yes, that is one way to solve that
T 1722539764 18<hoshino18>	i am updating my system with that
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T 1722542140 18<drew18>	should optional dependencies go in the world file? Is there a better way to install something as an (optional) dependency of another package?
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T 1722542239 18<Alfr18>	drew, what do think of, when you say "better"?
T 1722542245 18<monkfish18>	only if not otherwise subject to a USE flag.
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T 1722542288 18<drew18>	Alfr: I am trying to avoid a future where I uninstall something and still have optional dependencies installed for it and can't remember why I installed them
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T 1722542298 18<monkfish18>	ok. then no. don't do that.
T 1722542311 18<marduk18>	put them in a set
T 1722542313 18<Alfr18>	drew, if you want to, you could define sets for those ...
T 1722542321 18<drew18>	I've never heard of that
T 1722542345 18<monkfish18>	is it really necessary?
T 1722542406 18<Alfr18>	drew, /etc/portage/sets/fizz-buzz; one atom per line. Then emerge @fizz-buzz; if you want to get rid of it, emerge -W @fizz-buzz followed by a depclean.
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T 1722542466 18<drew18>	I mean I am manually installing stuff like chromaprint and some py libs for a program and if I later uninstall it they will stay. I figure one of the points of tracking dependencies is to not do that
T 1722542490 18<monkfish18>	why, though? is the program outside the purview of portage?
T 1722542513 18<drew18>	no, these are just optional dependencies. It's media-sounds/beets fwiw
T 1722542541 18<monkfish18>	I see.
T 1722542546 18<drew18>	it has 12 optional dependencies and I would like to install some, but if I uninstall beets later, I will still have stuff like chromaprint installed, for example
T 1722542573 18<monkfish18>	a named set does have the benefit of being able to be named in accordance with its purpose and to contain comments.
T 1722542581 18<monkfish18>	actually, not sure about comments.
T 1722542628 18<monkfish18>	but just being able to name it, say, beets-optdeps is a potential win from a maintenance perspective.
T 1722542642 18<drew18>	right, I think that is the best option so far
T 1722542664 18<Alfr18>	drew, monkfish may want to name the set beets and thrown in beets itself too.
T 1722542705 18<drew18>	do I have to add the set to world? or are all sets considered roots of a dep tree?
T 1722542752 18<Alfr18>	drew, if you emerge the set, it'll be recorded in /var/lib/portage/world_sets.
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T 1722543940 18<hoshino18>	dhcpcd-ui still doesnt work
T 1722543944 18<hoshino18>	and the same issue remains
T 1722543993 18<hoshino18>	https://bpa.st/KLSQ
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T 1722544044 18<wkrs18>	iamben: https://bpa.st/WMYA
T 1722544059 18<wkrs18>	My broken kernel dmesg
T 1722544077 18<tdr18>	hoshino, are you running that on wayland or X?
T 1722544084 18<hoshino18>	Hyprland runs on wayland
T 1722544120 18<tdr18>	ok its looking for display:0 which is an X thing, you'd need to have that set, probably through an xdg thing
T 1722544154 18<hoshino18>	one of the xdg helpers I have is xdg-portal-hyprland
T 1722544180 18<tdr18>	i dont think thats the typical one used to set/mimic an x display by other wayland users
T 1722544249 18<hoshino18>	its the one I have set up which makes my applications urn
T 1722544250 18<hoshino18>	*run
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T 1722544580 18<hoshino18>	oh
T 1722544582 18<hoshino18>	from what I see,
T 1722544596 18<hoshino18>	it seems that the application wont run because the application is being run as root
T 1722544737 18<tdr18>	that could also why it cant conenct to display:0 if your user "owns" display:0
T 1722544755 18<hoshino18>	id probably need a root session with hyprland to access that application then
T 1722544774 18<tdr18>	if you su to root first, so "su" so you dont lose your own env, then launch it, does it work?
T 1722544824 18<hoshino18>	QStandardPaths: runtime directory '/tmp/hypr' is not owned by UID 0, but a directory permissions 0700 owned by UID 1000 GID 1000
T 1722544824 18<tdr18>	su (use that) vs su -  is what I meant, that should  carry your xauth forward
T 1722544825 18<hoshino18>	thought so
T 1722544837 18<hoshino18>	uid 0 is root
T 1722544842 18<hoshino18>	however
T 1722544844 18<hoshino18>	I just noticed
T 1722544850 18<hoshino18>	wpa_gui also manages my networks
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T 1722544858 18<hoshino18>	I am running wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd
T 1722544864 18<hoshino18>	?
T 1722544871 18<hoshino18>	where am I getting my network from..?
T 1722544881 18<tdr18>	it can be done multiple ways
T 1722544893 18<tdr18>	your wpa coul dbe calling dhcpd as a process
T 1722544896 18<hoshino18>	I also have networkmanager, but it is disabled
T 1722544900 18<hoshino18>	ah
T 1722544901 18<hoshino18>	true
T 1722544903 18<tdr18>	or your dhcpcd could be starting wpa
T 1722544909 18<tdr18>	(as a process)
T 1722544917 18<tdr18>	which service do you have enabled?
T 1722544921 18<hoshino18>	dhcpcd
T 1722544995 18<tdr18>	so what are you needing to do (other than the obvious "open a gui tool")  ?
T 1722545006 18<hoshino18>	change my network to a different one
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T 1722545088 18<BtbN18>	that seems a bit out of scope of plain dhcpcd
T 1722545106 18<BtbN18>	it is a bit of a small NM, but not really on-par at all
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T 1722545272 18<hoshino18>	wpa_gui doesnt work again :(
T 1722545289 18<hoshino18>	i dont know which environment variable I set, but since i refreshed this web page, I cant scroll back up in chat
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T 1722545308 18<tdr18>	hoshino, did you run it as your user or as root?
T 1722545322 18<hoshino18>	root
T 1722545327 18<hoshino18>	since user cant access wpa_supplicant
T 1722545337 18<tdr18>	so you ran su first then ran the command?
T 1722545360 18<hoshino18>	ohh
T 1722545363 18<hoshino18>	i run su by itself
T 1722545369 18<hoshino18>	and not with sudo in front of it
T 1722545375 18<tdr18>	thats what i meant to do
T 1722545387 18<tdr18>	su first, then execute it, sudo is yet another layer i didnt want to debug
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T 1722545398 18<tdr18>	just "su" not "su -"
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T 1722545406 18<hoshino5018>	yea
T 1722545407 18<hoshino5018>	it worked
T 1722545415 18<hoshino5018>	thanks
T 1722545417 18<tdr18>	np
T 1722545449 18<hoshino5018>	all this just because my network has a stupid firewall preset by the manufacturer to block "suspicious networks"
T 1722545486 18<hoshino5018>	I have a spare pc, and im tempted to buy an inexpensive switch and ap and use the pc as a network
T 1722545555 18<tdr18>	you could maybe turn your "router" into AP mode too, some let you do that
T 1722545580 18<hoshino5018>	mine has pretty locked down firmware, and im unsure how I could flash it with some software
T 1722545602 18<tdr18>	hoshino50, what is it
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T 1722545727 18<hoshino5018>	it is a fios g1100
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T 1722546202 18<kurly18>	whatever problem you think your fios box is causing, it's probably not
T 1722546316 18<zen_desu18>	idk some CPE comes straight out of hell
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T 1722546448 18<kurly18>	wat
T 1722546533 18<zen_desu18>	i've had ISP provided boxes that do things you'd never want a network device doing
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T 1722546553 18<zen_desu18>	some even with miswired ethernet ports
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T 1722546633 18<kurly18>	i have fios myself and use a g3100, i reiterate what i said
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T 1722546858 18<zen_desu18>	probably would have been good to lead with that info lol, but i would not be totally surprised if there was some compatibility issues with that device and whatever NIC they are using, or bad firmware. you kinda never know with CPE stuff, you really need some sane AP to test with in cases like this
T 1722546907 18<zen_desu18>	lots of cards will run an AP just fine so it's not too hard to test with hostapd on some other device
T 1722546981 18<zen_desu18>	it's also hepful when the other ends says auth or association failure, etc
T 1722547087 18<kurly18>	zen_desu: you've been here long enough to know that *usually* when i say things, it's because i have good reason ;)
T 1722547199 18<zen_desu18>	sure, but i think for the sake of learning it is helpful to substantiate things, rather than just say "it's probably not that". i also think if they are concerned about locked down firmware and being able to debug their network, it makes sense to try to use something other than CPE, so there's no reason to shut down that approach, even if it's true that this isn't some firewalling on their CPE
T 1722547227 18<zen_desu18>	in general i think most people benefit by replacing their CPE if they can afford to or have the time to do a bit of extra managemetn
T 1722547254 18<zen_desu18>	in some cases it even saves money, as some ISPS bill you monthly to use their hardware
T 1722547320 18<tdr18>	zen_desu, they boutht the router outright and only use the ONT (which you can't escape and dont get billed for)
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T 1722547382 18<zen_desu18>	they said the network has some manufacturer firewall preset? that suggests they are using some router they can't fully control?
T 1722547410 18<zen_desu18>	I mean I have an ATT ONT i can't avoid using but it has my own router on "passthrough" or whatever so that is what does all the firewalling, and it gets a public ip
T 1722547448 18<zen_desu18>	if your ONT forces itself as your gateway router, that really limits how you can use your own network
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T 1722547491 18<tdr18>	verizon ont's dont force anything
T 1722547519 18<zen_desu18>	yeah if they have their own router under it, and it's acting as a bridge, then there should be no firewall concerns with it
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T 1722547541 18<tdr18>	its just more or less "mac" address registered so whatever you plug into it get your IP
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T 1722547544 18<zen_desu18>	but if it's still acting as a router, you kinda never know what it's actually doing in terms of firewalling/routing/etc
T 1722547559 18<tdr18>	its not really a router with any firewalling at all
T 1722547579 18<zen_desu18>	i think a lot of them also haev afancy sfp module that needs to use the device mac as an encryption key or something
T 1722547619 18<zen_desu18>	yeah but the CPE device sometims has all of it integrated and will do firewalling stuff itself, or have weird access policies if set to some kinda security mode
T 1722547656 18<zen_desu18>	idk about that one in particular, but again, just saying i would not be surprised if there was some weird firewalling issue coming as a result of using CPE as a router/fw in any capacity
T 1722547704 18<tdr18>	verizon isnt doing anything to it, the router is not company provided
T 1722547768 18<zen_desu18>	"mine has pretty locked down firmware, and im unsure how I could flash it with some software ... it is a fios g1100" did i miss any messages? they seem to say whatever is acting as a firewall on their network is that CPE
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T 1722554379 18<sokan18>	https://paste.gentoo.zip/IvPcv99M <-- to solve this I need to emerge lbv4l and --depclean v4l-utils?
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T 1722554709 18<kurly18>	sokan: emerge -W v4l-utils   (-W/--deselect)
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T 1722554836 18<sokan18>	kurly: and then update @world?
T 1722554997 18<kurly18>	yes
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T 1722558797 18<Cheyenne18>	distcc question -- is there a way to use the remote builder first (when it's available)?
T 1722559092 18<Skunky18>	set local jobs to 0? (just a guess, i've never managed to make distcc work quite right)
T 1722559116 18<Cheyenne18>	Well.. it needs to still be able to process locally if the remote system isn't available
T 1722559128 18<Cheyenne18>	would just like it to prefer the remote system
T 1722559159 18<salahx18>	IT perfers servers in the order they are specified
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T 1722559174 18<salahx18>	"localhost" is special and refers to the local machine
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T 1722559243 18<Cheyenne18>	distcc's hosts ==> gentoo-builder/16 \n localhost/8
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T 1722559382 18<Cheyenne18>	the gentoo-builder is a virtual machine on a very beefy system
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T 1722562971 18<josef__k18>	I've got a problem rebuilding sci-libs/gsl that I can't find an answer for on the web: https://pastebin.com/Fd1WnevT
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T 1722562997 18<josef__k18>	The error line is "checking for cblas_sgemm in -lcblas... configure: error"
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T 1722563084 18<mingdao18>	josef__k: Did you check bugs.gentoo.org?
T 1722563106 18<josef__k18>	Yeah, although my search foo is not awesome these days, I'll keep searching.
T 1722563208 18<josef__k18>	I don't see anything for >=gsl-2.0 and cblas in there.
T 1722563292 18<tdr18>	josef__k,  both 2.7.1-r2 and gsl-2.7.1-r3  (both from gentoo not the repo you're using) build for me
T 1722563308 18<tdr18>	oh i misread
T 1722563313 18<josef__k18>	Yeah, I don't think it's a problem with gsl, it's a problem with my setup.
T 1722563336 18<tdr18>	thought yours said the science repo
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T 1722563429 18<josef__k18>	I use eselect-ldso and openblas, and have USE=external-cblas on gsl.
T 1722563457 18<tdr18>	i just built it with and without external-blas
T 1722563460 18<josef__k18>	I just upgraded to profile 23.0, so _everything_ has been rebuilt recently and this problem was happening before that.
T 1722563494 18<josef__k18>	So I feel like there is some leftover cruft somewhere that is wrong that needs to be deleted or something.
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T 1722563756 18<josef__k18>	I've also got this long list of preserved libs that don't get resolved when I run emerge @preserved-libs: https://pastebin.com/tPWmpeZk
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T 1722564085 18<tdr18>	josef__k, if you emerge -1 inkscape does the libpoppler one go away?
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T 1722564282 18<igor4218>	Why does portage not use tqdm or another progress bar for emerge runs? Or is there an option to use one?
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T 1722564610 18<kurly18>	igor42: because it's not possible to determine how long any given package will take
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T 1722565074 18<igor4218>	kurly: I meant a progress bar of n/N packages done. Equivalent to what it shows now when running concurrent emerges. I just prefer a tqdm-like progressbar over a message saying x jobs complete.
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T 1722565384 18<ezzieyguywuf18>	`pactl info` hangs for a few seconds then times out - how can I troubleshoot what's going on?
T 1722565433 18<ezzieyguywuf18>	I don't seem to have gentoo-pipewire-launcher installed either
T 1722565601 18<igor4218>	ezzieyguywuf: do you have pipewire installed?
T 1722565618 18<igor4218>	I believe pactl is provided by pulseaudio, not pipewore
T 1722565659 18<ezzieyguywuf18>	igor42: I do but it's not up-to-date
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T 1722565768 18<ezzieyguywuf18>	k, so ps-cli seems to confirm that pipewire is doing _something_
T 1722565780 18<ezzieyguywuf18>	I guess just the pulseaudio thingy isn't pulseuaudioing
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T 1722565891 18<ezzieyguywuf18>	`wpctl status` also seems to hang
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T 1722569490 18<kernaltrap18>	having issues building dev-util/rizin: http://0x0.st/XOOl.txt
T 1722569514 18<kernaltrap18>	i could maybe uninstall it but i'd rather fix it, no idea what to look for as it just fails to compile a file without really any message
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T 1722569577 18<kernaltrap18>	whoops i forgot to ansifilter the log
T 1722569623 18<kurly18>	bug 928301
T 1722569625 18<willikins18>	kurly: https://bugs.gentoo.org/928301 "dev-util/rizin-0.7.1 - c_cpp_parser.c:(.text+<snip>): undefined reference to ts_parser_new"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; CONF; toralf:ajak
T 1722569684 18<kernaltrap18>	oh i didnt even notice the linker errors earlier
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T 1722570137 18<kernaltrap18>	hm well i could build the latest upstream manually just fine, is this a gcc bug or something?
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T 1722570336 18<kurly18>	not sure how that conclusion was arrived at
T 1722570355 18<kernaltrap18>	well
T 1722570367 18<kernaltrap18>	i dont think when i invoke meson myself it uses gcc
T 1722570496 18<kurly18>	it just built fine here, so time for a new theory ;)
T 1722570508 18<kernaltrap18>	yeah very strange
T 1722570518 18<kernaltrap18>	why would it build manually but not via emerge...
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T 1722571011 18<ztrawhcse18>	when you invoke meson yourself, it may see `cc` instead of `gcc`
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T 1722571129 18<ztrawhcse18>	kernaltrap: basically it appears to be saying that the system tree-sitter isn't functionally providing the APIs it expects to get
T 1722571164 18<ztrawhcse18>	kernaltrap: and portage is passing the meson option -Duse_sys_tree_sitter=enabled
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T 1722571478 18<kernaltrap18>	ztrawhcse: ah alright, thanks eli. yeah passing that did result in the same compiler errors
T 1722571484 18<parona_18>	if tree-sitter-c is installed it uses it and fails. otherwise it uses its tree-sitter-c subproject statically and succeeds
T 1722571498 18<kernaltrap18>	yeah tree-sitter-c is installed for me
T 1722571539 18<kernaltrap18>	this seems to be the fault of neovim, at least for me, as its the only package pulling in tree-sitter-c
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T 1722571713 18<parona_18>	tbh the issue is either rizins build system or tree-sitter-c's pkgconf file not including instruction to link against tree-sitter proper
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T 1722571810 18<Corbit18>	Why does x11-misc/slop fails, by updating my system? Build log: https://bpa.st/SPQA
T 1722571845 18<Corbit18>	Compiler issue?
T 1722571855 18<parona_18>	icu
T 1722571882 18<parona_18>	icu bumped its c++ standard meaning all its revdeps need to update themselves as well
T 1722571905 18<parona_18>	bug 933863 looks like its reported
T 1722571907 18<willikins18>	parona_: https://bugs.gentoo.org/933863 "x11-misc/slop-7.6-r1 - [icu-75.1] /.../stringpiece.h: error: enable_if_t in namespace std does not name a template type"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; IN_P; toralf:nrk
T 1722571950 18<Corbit18>	Ah. Thanks parona_. Does it make sense to exclude this package to keep my update going?
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T 1722571986 18<parona_18>	you could do that and lets preserve-rebuild keep the old icu libs. or you could downgrade icu and mask the new one
T 1722572034 18<parona_18>	kernaltrap: looks like pkgconf it is. adding -ltree-sitter to it made it happy
T 1722572046 18<parona_18>	https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter-c/blob/master/bindings/c/tree-sitter-c.pc.in#L10
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T 1722572329 18<Corbit18>	parona_ Ok, so I put "=dev-libs/icu-74.1" to package.mask. Does preserve-rebuild keeps toe old icu by itself?
T 1722572361 18<parona_18>	wrong way around. anything above version 75 has the breaking change
T 1722572369 18<parona_18>	so >=dev-libs/icu-75
T 1722572379 18<parona_18>	and yes
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T 1722572589 18<Corbit18>	Ah. Now it works. Thanks parona_ :)